An old house, a geek, a cute transvestite, a very tall lesbian, and at least one ghost–what could happen? – Adult situations and artistic nudity. Not suitable for children.
Yeah… “prostitutes” are the ones they take services from without paying. Threat of arrest, Civil Asset Forfeiture, child abduction, outing her to her day job… all valued quite a bit higher than some “free service” (although if you don’t have a badge, that’s generally called “rape”).
No it’s not rape… Blackmail, extortion, duress… But not rape. If there’s consent, even unwilling consent, it’s not rape.
That’s why they use those tactics, once she says OK, then the crime becomes harder to prove . “I wasn’t really going to turn her in to family services, I don’t know where she got that idea”. Rape has physical evidence, verbal blackmail or extortion doesn’t, and they can argue misunderstanding.
Just because there is ‘consent’ in ‘unwilling consent’ doesn’t mean it’s okay
There is absolutely zero difference between rape and ‘a little too much force applied’: the damage caused is the same
A woman (or a man) who does not struggle, thus does not require the attacker to use excess force, is still raped just as much as if they fought back and struggled
My point is that no matter how evil or harmful consent under duress is, that LEGALLY once the consent is given, no matter how much they don’t want to give it, they can’t file charges on the act, just on the duress used to force the act. And the fact that duress is harder to prove (he said, she said), and usually has less punishment than the rape would have had in the 1st place. Which is why they use it as a tactic.
“I was just pointing out to her that I COULD turn her into family services, and that THEY would remove her children from her house, I WASN’T threatening to turn her in unless she had sex with me. She just offered.”
Yes while that is as bad or worse than physically forced rape, it isn’t treated the same.
Nope, it is still rape. It may be harder to prove in a court of law, but it is still rape. And the term “unwilling consent” is a contradiction in terms. If one person is unwilling then you don’t have consent and use of any form of coercion nullifies consent so pointing out that you could turn her into family services is indeed an implied threat and the person saying that would be confessing to rape.
…Also much more straightforward and unambiguous Rape by police is common also. Police officer’s word vs the word of a “criminal”, since prostitution is illegal. Helps that the rest of the justice system, from the prosecutors to the judges, are all on the same team as the cops too.
Yeah… “prostitutes” are the ones they take services from without paying. Threat of arrest, Civil Asset Forfeiture, child abduction, outing her to her day job… all valued quite a bit higher than some “free service” (although if you don’t have a badge, that’s generally called “rape”).
No it’s not rape… Blackmail, extortion, duress… But not rape. If there’s consent, even unwilling consent, it’s not rape.
That’s why they use those tactics, once she says OK, then the crime becomes harder to prove . “I wasn’t really going to turn her in to family services, I don’t know where she got that idea”. Rape has physical evidence, verbal blackmail or extortion doesn’t, and they can argue misunderstanding.
Just because there is ‘consent’ in ‘unwilling consent’ doesn’t mean it’s okay
There is absolutely zero difference between rape and ‘a little too much force applied’: the damage caused is the same
A woman (or a man) who does not struggle, thus does not require the attacker to use excess force, is still raped just as much as if they fought back and struggled
My point is that no matter how evil or harmful consent under duress is, that LEGALLY once the consent is given, no matter how much they don’t want to give it, they can’t file charges on the act, just on the duress used to force the act. And the fact that duress is harder to prove (he said, she said), and usually has less punishment than the rape would have had in the 1st place. Which is why they use it as a tactic.
“I was just pointing out to her that I COULD turn her into family services, and that THEY would remove her children from her house, I WASN’T threatening to turn her in unless she had sex with me. She just offered.”
Yes while that is as bad or worse than physically forced rape, it isn’t treated the same.
Nope, it is still rape. It may be harder to prove in a court of law, but it is still rape. And the term “unwilling consent” is a contradiction in terms. If one person is unwilling then you don’t have consent and use of any form of coercion nullifies consent so pointing out that you could turn her into family services is indeed an implied threat and the person saying that would be confessing to rape.
…Also much more straightforward and unambiguous Rape by police is common also. Police officer’s word vs the word of a “criminal”, since prostitution is illegal. Helps that the rest of the justice system, from the prosecutors to the judges, are all on the same team as the cops too.