An old house, a geek, a cute transvestite, a very tall lesbian, and at least one ghost–what could happen? – Adult situations and artistic nudity. Not suitable for children.
That is an assumption, yes. But almost any other specific assumption (that is, assuming it is a member of a specific species) brings with it more questions.
If it’s an extraterrestrial species, then why haven’t the Orions noticed it or them hanging around near Ace’s house?
If its a terrestrial cryptid that happens to resemble a humanoid wolf (or a lycoid primate?) then might it (or others of its species) have spawned the idea of an intermediate form for a werewolf, in which case, is it not a werewolf, sort of?
On the other hand, if its a werewolf, it fits with all the other critters of folklore that seems to inhabit Ace’s world.
Vampires turning to ash when they go is a blessing, really; no awkward corpses to explain. Also, it’s a way of being sure that they’re doing a good job of dying, ‘cos clearly they did a half-assed botched job of it the first try. Practice makes perfect, as they say.
The problem with killing vampires is you can’t take any really proper trophies. When they turn to ash like that, you can never get them stuffed and mounted to hang up on your wall.
@[Guesticus]:
It looked to me (in [2020-06-05]=”Unfrieldly Eyes”) as though he was wearing a brim-less cap backwards, & we just saw only the cap’s adjustable strap in those panels, with his hair-line showing above the strap. In the last panel above, it looks as though there’s an area of black above his hair, which might’ve been a little bit more of the cap being visible from that angle. Only by zooming-in on the last panel of the [2020-08-05]-page (“Busting Out”) could I be sure that it’s only a headband …
…so what’s that slim black area between his “dusty” head & the trees, in today’s last panel???
Have we discovered a “render-artifact”?
( … heavy-sigh … )
While a black head-covering makes perfect sense for a nocturnal stakeout situation, it really makes the audience’s job so much harder, when we need to search for details.
@[al mar]:
Maybe not Maggie …
…don’t forget that “G’nar (the insignificant)” is able to shape-shift!
Waitaminute…
…if this WAS G’nar, then [AndyOh] wouldn’t be calling them “Hex”. He’s pretty honorable that way.
Nevermind.
@[al mar]:
Consider that NAMING yourself “Hex” might not require any actual usage of magical “spells & witchcraft” — it might just be an attempt to impress/intimidate their opponents.
ALSO:
Don’t forget, “magic” is just our “catch-all” term for any technology that we don’t (yet) understand.
For example, “heavier-than-air” flight used to be regarded as magic, for most of human history.
Same for “remote viewing”, before we invented the telescope, & later-on, the television.
Hex is also short for Hexadecimal (sometimes also known as base 16) rather like Trey refers to the third, which does not bode well for the number of duplications of Ace running around.
That last panel has me wondering if the clothes will remain after he’s “dusted” … ?
That particular “trope/issue” always bothered me in all the episodes of “Buffy”.
What intelligent reason did they have for including CLOTHING in a vampire’s bodily disintegration?
Because it was easier to CGI-render clothes-&-body together?
Because it simplified the story-plot, by removing ALL physical evidence?
it looks to me like the clothes will remain. I think that the only bit that LOOKS like the clothes dusting are actually the bloodstain from his de-hearting. On the other hand, we know these vamps are created by nanotech so the clothes might get chewed up after all…
I believe that “simplifying the plot” was the reason Whedon dusted the vamp’s clothes as well, because otherwise the Sunnyvale Police would have eventually twigged to this one blonde being connected to SO many apparent murders. And since those vampires were explicitly magical/demonic, it wasn’t that hard a handwave.
I doubt Andy is interested in making it THAT simple, though. 😉
Simplifying the plot was why ALL vamps turned COMPLETELY to dust, instead of new ones just starting to rot. Simplifying the effects budget is why they didn’t try to separate out the clothes, find a way to have the dusting effect explode the body while the clothes hung there unsupported, then film the clothes falling on the dust. With Buffy in the shot, you just have her freeze when she’s ‘killed’ them, have the ‘vamp’ walk off screen, then finish the scene, the dusting can take place during the freeze before the action restarts. If the clothes survive there’s no easy way to have a live actor in the shot, unless you filmed them separately and used compositing to put them together.
@[Guesticus]:
I was reminded of this scene:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzZJUenB8uY]
…based on the classic “vampire tropes”, but taken all-the-way to their ruthlessly-logical conclusion — I “LOL”-ed when I first realized what the director was up to!
🙂
Later-on in the film, when it was revealed what they might yet do with a simple water-faucet, I was awe-struck by the brilliant simplicity of this plot-point. I was asking myself:
“WHY has no-one EVER tried this in any previous film — it’s so OBVIOUS in hindsight!!!?!”
On_A_Different_Note:
Either things are happening too fast for any reaction, or else the Count seems unusually calm about all this. Even Thall has shown more of a response than he does.
Why so calm?
Is he stronger than Hex?
Is he fast-enough to evade attacks?
Does he KNOW something, that we’ve not yet learned?
That’s… not a K’Sel…
Ok a new player. Now there are lycanthropes. But it looks like this one is possibly on the side of good.
Or possibly there’s a White Wolf RPG style masquerade vs. apocalypse war going on….
I didn’t see “lycanthrope” here, I just saw “Haven’t seen that species before.” What makes you think this guy turns human?
That is an assumption, yes. But almost any other specific assumption (that is, assuming it is a member of a specific species) brings with it more questions.
If it’s an extraterrestrial species, then why haven’t the Orions noticed it or them hanging around near Ace’s house?
If its a terrestrial cryptid that happens to resemble a humanoid wolf (or a lycoid primate?) then might it (or others of its species) have spawned the idea of an intermediate form for a werewolf, in which case, is it not a werewolf, sort of?
On the other hand, if its a werewolf, it fits with all the other critters of folklore that seems to inhabit Ace’s world.
Also the title of the comic itself. Bad Moon Rising has always been used a a allusion to werewolves.
While Ace can be oblivious to his surroundings, I think Luna would have noticed full time wolf people wandering around the neighborhood.
On the plus side, they ar least ash when terminated.
That’s what I came to say, that vamps seem to follow the common tropes here.
Also, our wolfie “friend” doesn’t have a tag, unlike everyone else in the scene.
I just looked at the tags and there are four names.
And if you subtract the names from “Good , Badder, Baddest”, you are left with “Hex”. Whoever that is.
Hex is the woofiewoof.
I… completely missed the title. Clever usage!
Vampires turning to ash when they go is a blessing, really; no awkward corpses to explain. Also, it’s a way of being sure that they’re doing a good job of dying, ‘cos clearly they did a half-assed botched job of it the first try. Practice makes perfect, as they say.
No, it’s not the Vamps being dusted that is the problem, it’s their clothes that are being dusted along with them
OK, i’m just confused now.
A new friend? Or an old one that learned a new trick?
Oo-key. How is it that Ace has saved and when?
which Ace is the question. We know of at least three.
What the everloving FRAK?
Lick your ear, turn you to stone?
more like; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=masEsZGgtf8
The problem with killing vampires is you can’t take any really proper trophies. When they turn to ash like that, you can never get them stuffed and mounted to hang up on your wall.
Agreed.
They should at-least have the decency to leave their CLOTHES behind!
#I’m_Just_Sayin’
Was just going to mention: hope AndyOH! leaves the clothes behind, and it kinda looks like He will
Part of his cap appears to be disintegrating though…
He’s not wearing a cap, it’s a black head-band
@[Guesticus]:
It looked to me (in [2020-06-05]=”Unfrieldly Eyes”) as though he was wearing a brim-less cap backwards, & we just saw only the cap’s adjustable strap in those panels, with his hair-line showing above the strap. In the last panel above, it looks as though there’s an area of black above his hair, which might’ve been a little bit more of the cap being visible from that angle. Only by zooming-in on the last panel of the [2020-08-05]-page (“Busting Out”) could I be sure that it’s only a headband …
…so what’s that slim black area between his “dusty” head & the trees, in today’s last panel???
Have we discovered a “render-artifact”?
( … heavy-sigh … )
While a black head-covering makes perfect sense for a nocturnal stakeout situation, it really makes the audience’s job so much harder, when we need to search for details.
He is turning into none moving silicon(silicon nanites are what vampires are in this universe), and his closes are still there.
Good catch Gene.
That might explain the mystery of the disappearing bones, if they’re being “processed” by the nanites.
“Hex” suggests spells & witchcraft are involved. We can’t be sure this is a werewolf, it might not even be male… Maggie?
That one did not occur to me. but it does fit when we last saw her and the last words by the Voodoo Devil Baron Samedi.
with her little sister.
@[al mar]:
Maybe not Maggie …
…don’t forget that “G’nar (the insignificant)” is able to shape-shift!
Waitaminute…
…if this WAS G’nar, then [AndyOh] wouldn’t be calling them “Hex”. He’s pretty honorable that way.
Nevermind.
@[al mar]:
Consider that NAMING yourself “Hex” might not require any actual usage of magical “spells & witchcraft” — it might just be an attempt to impress/intimidate their opponents.
ALSO:
Don’t forget, “magic” is just our “catch-all” term for any technology that we don’t (yet) understand.
For example, “heavier-than-air” flight used to be regarded as magic, for most of human history.
Same for “remote viewing”, before we invented the telescope, & later-on, the television.
Hex is also short for Hexadecimal (sometimes also known as base 16) rather like Trey refers to the third, which does not bode well for the number of duplications of Ace running around.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hexadecimal
It’s also short for “Hexenwolfe”, a form of werewolf, turned into one by a powerful charm or amulet.
That last panel has me wondering if the clothes will remain after he’s “dusted” … ?
That particular “trope/issue” always bothered me in all the episodes of “Buffy”.
What intelligent reason did they have for including CLOTHING in a vampire’s bodily disintegration?
Because it was easier to CGI-render clothes-&-body together?
Because it simplified the story-plot, by removing ALL physical evidence?
it looks to me like the clothes will remain. I think that the only bit that LOOKS like the clothes dusting are actually the bloodstain from his de-hearting. On the other hand, we know these vamps are created by nanotech so the clothes might get chewed up after all…
I believe that “simplifying the plot” was the reason Whedon dusted the vamp’s clothes as well, because otherwise the Sunnyvale Police would have eventually twigged to this one blonde being connected to SO many apparent murders. And since those vampires were explicitly magical/demonic, it wasn’t that hard a handwave.
I doubt Andy is interested in making it THAT simple, though. 😉
Simplifying the plot was why ALL vamps turned COMPLETELY to dust, instead of new ones just starting to rot. Simplifying the effects budget is why they didn’t try to separate out the clothes, find a way to have the dusting effect explode the body while the clothes hung there unsupported, then film the clothes falling on the dust. With Buffy in the shot, you just have her freeze when she’s ‘killed’ them, have the ‘vamp’ walk off screen, then finish the scene, the dusting can take place during the freeze before the action restarts. If the clothes survive there’s no easy way to have a live actor in the shot, unless you filmed them separately and used compositing to put them together.
Hmm, it looks like a vamp will survive a disheartening encounter… as long as their heart remains intact at least
@[Guesticus]:
I was reminded of this scene:
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzZJUenB8uY]
…based on the classic “vampire tropes”, but taken all-the-way to their ruthlessly-logical conclusion — I “LOL”-ed when I first realized what the director was up to!
🙂
Later-on in the film, when it was revealed what they might yet do with a simple water-faucet, I was awe-struck by the brilliant simplicity of this plot-point. I was asking myself:
“WHY has no-one EVER tried this in any previous film — it’s so OBVIOUS in hindsight!!!?!”
Also enjoy the grin on Hex’ face after they dust Riccy 🙂
It’s a subtle change from the other panels
i imagine there is a guardian angel hanging around saying “what the fuck?”
Well there are many reasons that Aces guardian teams tend to leave him. some of them I am sure needed therapy after a tour.
I believe when Spooky disappeared the investigator said he’d had 4 earlier guardians, and that ?2 were institutionalized? after the posting.
On_A_Different_Note:
Either things are happening too fast for any reaction, or else the Count seems unusually calm about all this. Even Thall has shown more of a response than he does.
Why so calm?
Is he stronger than Hex?
Is he fast-enough to evade attacks?
Does he KNOW something, that we’ve not yet learned?
Maybe he is just an arrogant ass that thinks he is tougher than he really is..
I’m gonna go out on a wild guess and say that it’s officer friendly. Lycanthropes are well known for being very tall individuals after all.